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US Mall 1 - Stay Positive
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List Price: $13.98
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Manufacturer: Vagrant Records
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Binding: Audio CD
EAN: 6010910501294
Format: Extra tracks
Label: Vagrant Records
Manufacturer: Vagrant Records
Number Of Discs: 1
Publisher: Vagrant Records
Release Date: 2008-07-15
Studio: Vagrant Records
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Summary: They'll always have Boys and Girls in America
Comment: After the major leap forward that Boys and Girls in America was, The Hold Steady stood a pretty good chance of having me completely forgive them for their first two albums. Perhaps singer/songwriter Craig Finn's Catholic Church would have required him to confess the musical sins of his past, but I would simply ask that he make another record comparable in quality to their third one. Unfortunately, their fourth album - Stay Positive - doesn't quite scale such grand heights.
On Boys and Girls in America, Finn's lyric writing had grown by leaps and bounds. On Stay Positive, it is still pretty good. The religious dimension continues to give his songs a fair amount of depth. Among the more memorable lyrics are "Me and my friends are like/The drums on `Lust for Life'," "In bar light, she looked alright/In daylight, she looked desperate," and "Sniffing on crystal in cute little cars/Getting nailed against Dumpsters behind townie bars." That last lyric comes from "One For the Cutters," the title of which refers to the names of the townies in the 1979 movie "Breaking Away" (props to J.D. Jansen for noting this in his review). However, Cleveland - the one city mentioned in this song - is quite far from Bloomington, Indiana, where that film takes place.
Alas, certain aspects of his songwriting aren't getting any less annoying. He still sings incessantly about being under the influence of one substance and/or another. He continues to name-drop cities quite a bit - including Ybor City, twice, in the last song on the album. Once again, he seems to get a kick out of referencing his own songs: There are two allusions to the title of the band's first album (Almost Killed Me), a quote from a song from that album's first song ("Positive Jam"), a repeat of a lyric from their second album ("she's gonna have to go with whoever's gonna get her the highest"), and one mention of the band's name ("We're the directors - our hands will hold steady"). All of these appear in the last few songs on the album, so I guess he felt like he had to squeeze them in.
Also, in the excellent "Both Crosses," Finn sings "You Catholic girls you start much too late." This, coupled with the mention of "Only the Good Die Young" on Almost Killed Me, makes The Hold Steady and Fountains of Wayne the unlikely co-winners of the "Most Likely to Quote Billy Joel in a Song" award. Whether this is a good thing or not is in the ear of the listener.
Musically, "Constructive SSSUH-mer" features chainsaw guitars and an E Street Band piano, the latter of which re-appears on "Yeah Sapphire." A harpsichord stakes out new musical territory on the aforementioned "One For the Cutters." "Lord, I'm Discouraged" and "Joke About Jamaica" have great guitar solos. "Navy Sheets," however, contains the absolute most annoying keyboard riff that I have ever heard in my life.
So we get it, Mr. Finn: you like to drink a lot and you constantly quote yourself. Good for you. Write about something else now. I am not optimistic about your next album, but consider this: I awarded one star to Almost Killed Me, two stars to Separation Sunday, four to Boys and Girls, and three to Stay Positive. Could the next one be a fiver? I'm not gonna bet the house on it, but I do think that you have a 5-star album somewhere in you. As you write your next batch of songs, consider this lyric from "Constructive Summer": "Let this be my annual reminder/That we can all be something bigger."
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Summary: Stay Postive People
Comment: When I first heard the The Hold Steady, I didn't get them. I could not get past Craig Finn's vocals and the simple regurgitation of rock and roll cliches. So I figured they were trying to trick me. Why would a band in the new century just play straight ahead rock music? I had to be missing something and that annoyed me.
Included in this recording you should know: There isn't any tricky production. There isn't soci-political statements being tossed up as enlightened dogma.
After the second listening it all came back to me. I remembered the joy of putting on a Stones album. I remembered digging a Springsteen record. I remembered about singing along in the car to Tom Petty, Creedence, The Pretenders, The Clash etc. Sometimes it's just rock and it's important because it's simple. Sometimes it doesn't have to change the world to change your outlook.
If you like Rock when the count to get it started is "One, Two, Three, Four", if you are not looking for vocal hysterics, over-blown freshman posey/poetry lyrics, maudlin mope rock and/or songs composed on Pro Tools which do not require learning how to play an instrument with ANY level of professionalism.....
This is an album for you to buy. Sometimes it's just Rock and Roll folks. Sometimes it's just that simple.
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Summary: Eggsellent!
Comment: Well, after a suggestion from a friend I downloaded this album from amazon and it has gotten almost 'round the clock airtime since. I have also gotten BAGIA and SS and the band's germination has culminated in Stay Positive. My best album of '08. I only wish I could see them with DBT this fall...
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Summary: you can only believe the hype
Comment: Stay Positive, when compared to the previous releases of THS, does have a feeling of a smirking smile, even in the midst of the subject matter. Everything from (dare I say) Springsteen style epic rock ballads and subject matter, to beat poetry and phenomenal lyrical story telling.
I've read that Craig Finn has indicated that he sings about the specific to describe the general"- and he does it quite well. Often times, its a bit didactic, hes repeating the same lines which didn't need underlining and emphasis. But there is brilliance, and pretty consistent brilliance.
Songs like "Constructive Summer " and "Sequestered in Memphis" are smooth and quite perfect- and "yeah sapphire" is a rock guitar gem. IF you like indie/alternative rock, and respect the classic rock aspect, this is a must own.
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Summary: Hold Steady still delievers gems
Comment: To be honest, I have a love affair with the Hold Steady. Their songs, although growers, are such great stories of life, friendship (and drinking). To me "Stay Positive" is definitely a grower-type album. It starts off SO strong with "Constructive Summer" and "Sequestered in Memphis" and then kind of drops off for "One for the Cutters" and "Navy Sheets." But the album comes back strong (but soft) during "Lord, I'm Discouraged." After that ballad (which is kind of acts the same way "Citrius" did on "Boys and Girls in America"), it is all uphill. "Both Crosses" is deal-able. But everything else is so solid. They tell stories of Holly and the usual cast of Hold Steady characters. The places are the same and the debauchery carries many of the same themes. I know Craig Finn said this album is grown up, but I still see themes of youth in the music and in the lyrics.
All in all, "Stay Positive" is 11 track album with two 'eh' songs, one 'so-so' song, and seven Hold Steady masterpieces.
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Summary: They'll always have Boys and Girls in America
Comment: After the major leap forward that Boys and Girls in America was, The Hold Steady stood a pretty good chance of having me completely forgive them for their first two albums. Perhaps singer/songwriter Craig Finn's Catholic Church would have required him to confess the musical sins of his past, but I would simply ask that he make another record comparable in quality to their third one. Unfortunately, their fourth album - Stay Positive - doesn't quite scale such grand heights.
On Boys and Girls in America, Finn's lyric writing had grown by leaps and bounds. On Stay Positive, it is still pretty good. The religious dimension continues to give his songs a fair amount of depth. Among the more memorable lyrics are "Me and my friends are like/The drums on `Lust for Life'," "In bar light, she looked alright/In daylight, she looked desperate," and "Sniffing on crystal in cute little cars/Getting nailed against Dumpsters behind townie bars." That last lyric comes from "One For the Cutters," the title of which refers to the names of the townies in the 1979 movie "Breaking Away" (props to J.D. Jansen for noting this in his review). However, Cleveland - the one city mentioned in this song - is quite far from Bloomington, Indiana, where that film takes place.
Alas, certain aspects of his songwriting aren't getting any less annoying. He still sings incessantly about being under the influence of one substance and/or another. He continues to name-drop cities quite a bit - including Ybor City, twice, in the last song on the album. Once again, he seems to get a kick out of referencing his own songs: There are two allusions to the title of the band's first album (Almost Killed Me), a quote from a song from that album's first song ("Positive Jam"), a repeat of a lyric from their second album ("she's gonna have to go with whoever's gonna get her the highest"), and one mention of the band's name ("We're the directors - our hands will hold steady"). All of these appear in the last few songs on the album, so I guess he felt like he had to squeeze them in.
Also, in the excellent "Both Crosses," Finn sings "You Catholic girls you start much too late." This, coupled with the mention of "Only the Good Die Young" on Almost Killed Me, makes The Hold Steady and Fountains of Wayne the unlikely co-winners of the "Most Likely to Quote Billy Joel in a Song" award. Whether this is a good thing or not is in the ear of the listener.
Musically, "Constructive SSSUH-mer" features chainsaw guitars and an E Street Band piano, the latter of which re-appears on "Yeah Sapphire." A harpsichord stakes out new musical territory on the aforementioned "One For the Cutters." "Lord, I'm Discouraged" and "Joke About Jamaica" have great guitar solos. "Navy Sheets," however, contains the absolute most annoying keyboard riff that I have ever heard in my life.
So we get it, Mr. Finn: you like to drink a lot and you constantly quote yourself. Good for you. Write about something else now. I am not optimistic about your next album, but consider this: I awarded one star to Almost Killed Me, two stars to Separation Sunday, four to Boys and Girls, and three to Stay Positive. Could the next one be a fiver? I'm not gonna bet the house on it, but I do think that you have a 5-star album somewhere in you. As you write your next batch of songs, consider this lyric from "Constructive Summer": "Let this be my annual reminder/That we can all be something bigger."
Customer Rating:
Summary: Stay Postive People
Comment: When I first heard the The Hold Steady, I didn't get them. I could not get past Craig Finn's vocals and the simple regurgitation of rock and roll cliches. So I figured they were trying to trick me. Why would a band in the new century just play straight ahead rock music? I had to be missing something and that annoyed me.
Included in this recording you should know: There isn't any tricky production. There isn't soci-political statements being tossed up as enlightened dogma.
After the second listening it all came back to me. I remembered the joy of putting on a Stones album. I remembered digging a Springsteen record. I remembered about singing along in the car to Tom Petty, Creedence, The Pretenders, The Clash etc. Sometimes it's just rock and it's important because it's simple. Sometimes it doesn't have to change the world to change your outlook.
If you like Rock when the count to get it started is "One, Two, Three, Four", if you are not looking for vocal hysterics, over-blown freshman posey/poetry lyrics, maudlin mope rock and/or songs composed on Pro Tools which do not require learning how to play an instrument with ANY level of professionalism.....
This is an album for you to buy. Sometimes it's just Rock and Roll folks. Sometimes it's just that simple.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Eggsellent!
Comment: Well, after a suggestion from a friend I downloaded this album from amazon and it has gotten almost 'round the clock airtime since. I have also gotten BAGIA and SS and the band's germination has culminated in Stay Positive. My best album of '08. I only wish I could see them with DBT this fall...
Customer Rating:
Summary: you can only believe the hype
Comment: Stay Positive, when compared to the previous releases of THS, does have a feeling of a smirking smile, even in the midst of the subject matter. Everything from (dare I say) Springsteen style epic rock ballads and subject matter, to beat poetry and phenomenal lyrical story telling.
I've read that Craig Finn has indicated that he sings about the specific to describe the general"- and he does it quite well. Often times, its a bit didactic, hes repeating the same lines which didn't need underlining and emphasis. But there is brilliance, and pretty consistent brilliance.
Songs like "Constructive Summer " and "Sequestered in Memphis" are smooth and quite perfect- and "yeah sapphire" is a rock guitar gem. IF you like indie/alternative rock, and respect the classic rock aspect, this is a must own.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Hold Steady still delievers gems
Comment: To be honest, I have a love affair with the Hold Steady. Their songs, although growers, are such great stories of life, friendship (and drinking). To me "Stay Positive" is definitely a grower-type album. It starts off SO strong with "Constructive Summer" and "Sequestered in Memphis" and then kind of drops off for "One for the Cutters" and "Navy Sheets." But the album comes back strong (but soft) during "Lord, I'm Discouraged." After that ballad (which is kind of acts the same way "Citrius" did on "Boys and Girls in America"), it is all uphill. "Both Crosses" is deal-able. But everything else is so solid. They tell stories of Holly and the usual cast of Hold Steady characters. The places are the same and the debauchery carries many of the same themes. I know Craig Finn said this album is grown up, but I still see themes of youth in the music and in the lyrics.
All in all, "Stay Positive" is 11 track album with two 'eh' songs, one 'so-so' song, and seven Hold Steady masterpieces.
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