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US Mall 1 - Ken Burns Presents The West (Boxed Set)
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Manufacturer: PBS Home Video & Time-Life Video
Directed By: Stephen Ives, Ken Burns
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Audience Rating: NR (Not Rated)
Binding: VHS Tape
EAN: 9780780613522
Format: Box set
ISBN: 078061352X
Label: PBS Home Video & Time-Life Video
Manufacturer: PBS Home Video & Time-Life Video
Number Of Items: 9
Publisher: PBS Home Video & Time-Life Video
Release Date: 1996-09-24
Running Time: 750
Studio: PBS Home Video & Time-Life Video
Theatrical Release Date: 1996
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Summary: A ten-star effort
Comment: When some people use the word "documentary" they seem to imbue it with an expectation of total objectivity--as if one could eliminate all traces of cultural experience from one's makeup and discover a shining path of ultimate "truth" simply by the act of becoming a filmmaker. Nonsense. We are all a product of our times and of the culture in which we were raised and educated. Documentaries are always, always, always selective. There is no such thing as total objectivity, either in writing or in filmmaking.
That said, this is an enormously valuable effort to sift through an extraordinary cross-section of materials and condense them into 12 and 1/2 hours of very viewable, enlightening and often extremely moving stories. Yes, that's right, I said "condense". The documents available on the history of the West literally fill many museums, and unless you plan to spend every waking moment of your life from the time you learn to read until the day you die as a serious scholar of western lore, you will never gain a complete knowledge of the subject. This is an outstanding effort to provide a distilation of the sense and feel of the west from the earliest days of indian tribal inhabitation to the passing of the frontier. To have even attempted that feat in a 12 and 1/2 hour presentation took courage and imagination. Although I have often grumbled to myself about Ken Burn's relentless imposition of an over-stylized montage technique on the presentation of his documentaries, I have nothing but astonished admiration for his accomplishment in crafting this mini-series. Bravo.
Yes, yes, it doesn't tell the whole story of the West. Yes, it is selective. And, yes, there are other things that could have been included. C'mon guys, quit sitting back like Monday morning quarterbacks and griping about what is missing from this presentation. Think about what he WAS able to accomplish! He captured a sense of sweep, a sense of the development of the frontier, and an extraordinarily vivid impression of the cultural, religious, social, economic and racial collisions that occurred in this vast space over a period of a couple of centuries. Good grief, what do you want, blood? If he had never made another movie, this series would still have placed him in the pantheon of American documentarians. No one is claiming that this is the only document you need to expose yourself to in order to achieve perfect understanding of the history of the West. But it's certainly one absolute requirement for inclusion in any attempt to understand the subject.
For any collector of Western memorabilia and lore, for any teacher who wants to enrich a class in American studies, and for anyone at all who simply wishes to gain a sense of the West in our history, this is a must-have set of dvds to add to your collection. It should be available in every school and public library and rerun regularly on PBS. It's the best thing Burns has ever done--the Civil War series notwithstanding--and those who chirp like little toads that it should have been better are welcome to make an effort to direct and produce a version that improves on it. Don't hold your breath until that happens.
Now I'm about to suggest a bit of social heresy in this day of 30 second commercials and infinitesimal attention spans. If you really want to gain the ultimate impact, try total immersion. Choose a rainy or snowy Saturday or Sunday, lay in a goodly supply of your favorite food and drink, lock the door and turn your phone off (!), and then do a total viewing immersion. Watch the entire series from beginning to end in one marathon day. And by the way, treat yourself to some solitude. That's right, do it alone; spend one day watching this without having to pay attention to the needs or attitudes or reactions of a viewing companion. Let it surround and soak into your senses. Embrace the barrage of images and sounds. Plunge headlong into that amazing collection of stories about people and places and events. It will change you. You won't come away with total recall of details, but you will achieve a new sensory and intellectual appreciation of our history that is geometrically greater than watching it piecemeal with days or weeks intervening between the episodes. Later on, after some time has passed, you can go back and view it again in the self-contained capsules; that time through, you will absorb the detail. Go ahead, try it. Challenge your mind.
Well done, Mr. Burns! My hat is off to you. And thank you PBS for reminding us that our brains are for thinking.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Fun to watch but too PC and inconsistent
Comment: This series is very entertaining, which is certainly an achievement. However, political correctness does pervade it as previously noted. You can see this right away in the first episode. For example, it points out as false the notion that native people lived in harmony with each other before the white man's arrival, but then it fails to condemn the natives' wars with each other, or even to treat them negatively. Rather, the "warrior traditions" which included beheadings, mass slaughters, brutal subjugation and conquest, war for war's sake, ethnic cleansing, enslavement, and other savagery visited upon other natives, are treated as simply that, traditions somehow worthy of our respect. How about those exalted "Dog Soldiers", basically the natives' equivalent of the SS. Are we too politically correct to condemn immoral acts simply because they were done by people of color to each other? Are we too immature to view the natives as anything more complex than the white man's victims? Isn't it disrespectful or racist or patronizing to treat these wrongs as acceptable just because they weren't done by Europeans? Is the idea "they were ignorant savages, they didn't know any better"? Does anyone believe that? What's the message here?
There are also some glaring inconsistencies. For example, in the first episode, we are told that the natives were not all the same: different groups had very different languages, customs, habitats, governance, religions, etc. However, we are then told throughout the series that "the Indian" believed this or that or did this or that. Often this is said on screen by someone who has native ancestors, as if he or she is speaking for all natives. Does this make sense?
Customer Rating:
Summary: Lure of the west
Comment: Ken Burns 'West' was just what I as a resident alien wanted to see , after trying to find some comprehensive history of this region. The documentary puts everything in perspective with some memorable quotes 'One man's exploration is another man's home' , 'It is North for the Mexicans, South for the British Canada, Home for the Native people, West for the Americans'. But it is the 'West' that has attracted people from around the world. The dispossession of the Native Indians is indeed tragic. Most literature on this phase of history has been one-sided with each seeing themselves as a victim. This documentary is not judgemental, but lets us meditate over all the facts in a hope some of the wrongs wont be repeated.
People have flocked to the West via sea routes, overland routes, railroads, freeways, and air route.Having landed here via the air route, I chuckle when some American tells me that I am brave to be here on my own. The 'West' is a story of few extraordinary successes that has enticed so many people hoping to replicate that success. The letters of the unsuccessful gold rush pioneer to his wife, the struggle of the couple to make it in a ranch in the mid-west are tragi-heroic. Most of them do not achieve what they want but the journey somehow enriches them.
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Summary: not "dreary" as one reviewer put it
Comment: First, I wish to rebut the reviewer who calls this a dreary waste of time, -this is somewhat PC, yes. But it is the truth. These things did happen. It does not whitewash the ferocity of Indian tribes, but one must admit we were brutal also. Have you no heart, sir, to call this dreary? This documentary is fascinating and beautifully photographed. I especially love the story in episode 8 about David Love and Ethel Waxham, because I grew up in Wyoming not too far from the area they did.
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Summary: The world according to Ken Burns
Comment: This is revisionist history at its best, the world according to Ken Burns. Where white men destroyed the earth, and it is saved by the black and red race.
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Summary: A ten-star effort
Comment: When some people use the word "documentary" they seem to imbue it with an expectation of total objectivity--as if one could eliminate all traces of cultural experience from one's makeup and discover a shining path of ultimate "truth" simply by the act of becoming a filmmaker. Nonsense. We are all a product of our times and of the culture in which we were raised and educated. Documentaries are always, always, always selective. There is no such thing as total objectivity, either in writing or in filmmaking.
That said, this is an enormously valuable effort to sift through an extraordinary cross-section of materials and condense them into 12 and 1/2 hours of very viewable, enlightening and often extremely moving stories. Yes, that's right, I said "condense". The documents available on the history of the West literally fill many museums, and unless you plan to spend every waking moment of your life from the time you learn to read until the day you die as a serious scholar of western lore, you will never gain a complete knowledge of the subject. This is an outstanding effort to provide a distilation of the sense and feel of the west from the earliest days of indian tribal inhabitation to the passing of the frontier. To have even attempted that feat in a 12 and 1/2 hour presentation took courage and imagination. Although I have often grumbled to myself about Ken Burn's relentless imposition of an over-stylized montage technique on the presentation of his documentaries, I have nothing but astonished admiration for his accomplishment in crafting this mini-series. Bravo.
Yes, yes, it doesn't tell the whole story of the West. Yes, it is selective. And, yes, there are other things that could have been included. C'mon guys, quit sitting back like Monday morning quarterbacks and griping about what is missing from this presentation. Think about what he WAS able to accomplish! He captured a sense of sweep, a sense of the development of the frontier, and an extraordinarily vivid impression of the cultural, religious, social, economic and racial collisions that occurred in this vast space over a period of a couple of centuries. Good grief, what do you want, blood? If he had never made another movie, this series would still have placed him in the pantheon of American documentarians. No one is claiming that this is the only document you need to expose yourself to in order to achieve perfect understanding of the history of the West. But it's certainly one absolute requirement for inclusion in any attempt to understand the subject.
For any collector of Western memorabilia and lore, for any teacher who wants to enrich a class in American studies, and for anyone at all who simply wishes to gain a sense of the West in our history, this is a must-have set of dvds to add to your collection. It should be available in every school and public library and rerun regularly on PBS. It's the best thing Burns has ever done--the Civil War series notwithstanding--and those who chirp like little toads that it should have been better are welcome to make an effort to direct and produce a version that improves on it. Don't hold your breath until that happens.
Now I'm about to suggest a bit of social heresy in this day of 30 second commercials and infinitesimal attention spans. If you really want to gain the ultimate impact, try total immersion. Choose a rainy or snowy Saturday or Sunday, lay in a goodly supply of your favorite food and drink, lock the door and turn your phone off (!), and then do a total viewing immersion. Watch the entire series from beginning to end in one marathon day. And by the way, treat yourself to some solitude. That's right, do it alone; spend one day watching this without having to pay attention to the needs or attitudes or reactions of a viewing companion. Let it surround and soak into your senses. Embrace the barrage of images and sounds. Plunge headlong into that amazing collection of stories about people and places and events. It will change you. You won't come away with total recall of details, but you will achieve a new sensory and intellectual appreciation of our history that is geometrically greater than watching it piecemeal with days or weeks intervening between the episodes. Later on, after some time has passed, you can go back and view it again in the self-contained capsules; that time through, you will absorb the detail. Go ahead, try it. Challenge your mind.
Well done, Mr. Burns! My hat is off to you. And thank you PBS for reminding us that our brains are for thinking.
Customer Rating:
Summary: Fun to watch but too PC and inconsistent
Comment: This series is very entertaining, which is certainly an achievement. However, political correctness does pervade it as previously noted. You can see this right away in the first episode. For example, it points out as false the notion that native people lived in harmony with each other before the white man's arrival, but then it fails to condemn the natives' wars with each other, or even to treat them negatively. Rather, the "warrior traditions" which included beheadings, mass slaughters, brutal subjugation and conquest, war for war's sake, ethnic cleansing, enslavement, and other savagery visited upon other natives, are treated as simply that, traditions somehow worthy of our respect. How about those exalted "Dog Soldiers", basically the natives' equivalent of the SS. Are we too politically correct to condemn immoral acts simply because they were done by people of color to each other? Are we too immature to view the natives as anything more complex than the white man's victims? Isn't it disrespectful or racist or patronizing to treat these wrongs as acceptable just because they weren't done by Europeans? Is the idea "they were ignorant savages, they didn't know any better"? Does anyone believe that? What's the message here?
There are also some glaring inconsistencies. For example, in the first episode, we are told that the natives were not all the same: different groups had very different languages, customs, habitats, governance, religions, etc. However, we are then told throughout the series that "the Indian" believed this or that or did this or that. Often this is said on screen by someone who has native ancestors, as if he or she is speaking for all natives. Does this make sense?
Customer Rating:
Summary: Lure of the west
Comment: Ken Burns 'West' was just what I as a resident alien wanted to see , after trying to find some comprehensive history of this region. The documentary puts everything in perspective with some memorable quotes 'One man's exploration is another man's home' , 'It is North for the Mexicans, South for the British Canada, Home for the Native people, West for the Americans'. But it is the 'West' that has attracted people from around the world. The dispossession of the Native Indians is indeed tragic. Most literature on this phase of history has been one-sided with each seeing themselves as a victim. This documentary is not judgemental, but lets us meditate over all the facts in a hope some of the wrongs wont be repeated.
People have flocked to the West via sea routes, overland routes, railroads, freeways, and air route.Having landed here via the air route, I chuckle when some American tells me that I am brave to be here on my own. The 'West' is a story of few extraordinary successes that has enticed so many people hoping to replicate that success. The letters of the unsuccessful gold rush pioneer to his wife, the struggle of the couple to make it in a ranch in the mid-west are tragi-heroic. Most of them do not achieve what they want but the journey somehow enriches them.
Customer Rating:
Summary: not "dreary" as one reviewer put it
Comment: First, I wish to rebut the reviewer who calls this a dreary waste of time, -this is somewhat PC, yes. But it is the truth. These things did happen. It does not whitewash the ferocity of Indian tribes, but one must admit we were brutal also. Have you no heart, sir, to call this dreary? This documentary is fascinating and beautifully photographed. I especially love the story in episode 8 about David Love and Ethel Waxham, because I grew up in Wyoming not too far from the area they did.
Customer Rating:
Summary: The world according to Ken Burns
Comment: This is revisionist history at its best, the world according to Ken Burns. Where white men destroyed the earth, and it is saved by the black and red race.
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